To Buy Discount Or Not?

To Buy Discount Or Not?

Angling Trade

A few months ago, a number of Sage Z-Axis fly rods, as well as Simms G4 waders, mysteriously appeared on the sales racks at 16 Costco locations throughout the country. And, true to form, the super-big-box retailer had drastically slashed prices, knocking hundreds of dollars off the MSRP.

But, alas, it was a short-lived phenomenon. When those companies heard about their products being sold through Costco (apparently, they were sourced to Costco by different agents and accounts), both Simms and Sage snuffed out sales by actually repurchasing their own products, at retail price.

Why so? They were protecting the exclusive proprietary right that specialty fly shops have to sell these products. And while that might seem like a bummer to the fly-fishing consumer looking to save a few bucks, it might not be… at least not if they value their local fly shop and want to see it remain in business.

The relationship between manufacturers and their dealers is tenuous. Manufacturers (but not all of them) are selling through outlets, even direct to the consumer via the Internet, like never before. In response, some shops have cut the manufacturer out of the mix. If you notice that your favorite fly shop starts selling its own “house label” brand of waders, reels, rods and accessories, odds are they’ve joined a consortium of shops from throughout the country that is manufacturing in Asia under a collective agreement, and simply private-labeling gear for each member in the collective.

Some companies, like Simms and Sage, are still looking out for the fly dealer and selling mostly through fly shops. The rationale is simple: While it might seem that the profit margins are better via direct sales, the real issue is “cultivation” of the consumer. And the fly shop plays a critical role in creating the value understanding (and the will to buy) at a level where an angler might spend more than a few hundred dollars for a pair of waders, or $700 or more for a fly rod.

The bottom line is that you, the consumer, will ultimately referee a retail wrestling match that seems to be turning uglier by the minute. Have you had enough of high product prices? Enough that you’re willing and able to buy your gear via shopping on the Internet? Or do you value the personal attention and coaching you get when visiting the classic fly shop where you can hold product and get spot-on advice about local waters and other angling subjects? Do you like to pick up, shake and actually cast a fly rod before you buy it?

If you’re like most anglers, you probably like it both ways. Convenience and discounts, with service and insights. The thing is, nobody is sure that the “have your cake and eat it too” scenario is going to last much longer.

Kirk Deeter is the editor of Angling Trade, which covers the business of fly-fishing. Go to www.anglingtrade.com

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kirk--i recently bought a 2

Kirk — I recently bought a 2 wt lefty kreh rod and I really like it. good old im 6 graphite, which I have a few Winstons in the same material… unless in a snobby shop I would suggest the tfo rod nearly every time. I shop at Costco and havent seen any worthwhile outdoor gear to speak of. Overall, the traditional fly shop is being invaded by discounters and I think the discounters are winning… for example, think of the absurd price of an umqua fly when it is now possible to buy a dozen of almost anything for less than ten bucks, and I fish Hills discount flies all the time… an orvis guide turned me onto Hills, so go figure. life is about change… since ive been fly fishing, two of the shops I bought from have gone under… and I have seen a shop in Wisconsin do well… I think the issue is how close to a trout stream is the fly shop? The closer the better, I think.

Who gets the job?

I think that in this as in so many other things, we have to ask ourselves, who gets the job? I like buying stuff from my neighbors. That means that i don't buy rods, or reels, or flys, even, made in China and I buy them from a brick-and-mortar fly shops, not off the internet from an outfit that could be anywhere.

Costco and Walmart are anti-American companies that have put people all over this country out of work by sourcing in China and elsewhere in the world. They've helped grease a slippery slope that causes folks to lose their jobs, take new ones at lower pay, and then find themselves in a place where they can only afford cheap crap from Costco and Walmart.

I do not buy anything from Asia anymore

I do not buy anything from Asia anymore. I look for anything made in the U.S. or the U.K. (where I come from). I hate all this outsourcing and buy cheap fly fishing crap. I always buy the best I can possibly afford.

I only buy from

I only buy froms the Wallmart.

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